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wuf

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Guys I need phsicologic help.
I know it can sound stupid but I need help to do not fap every other day.
I feel like if I vent my frustration on masturbation... But I do it too much and obviously I feel tired and exhausted because of this.
How do you do to avoid this?
Sorry for this stupid topic but I'm feeling like if I'm becoming a slave of myself masturbation.
 
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bruschi11

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Stay outta the house, assuming that’s where you “rough up the suspect”... goto the library or see a movie. Gym perhaps. Just don’t sit idle at home and find yourself looking to kill time. Or invite a friend over just to watch tv with.
Amen. Idle time is worst thing for this. Idle time is worst thing for pfs as well. Be doing. Everyday.

Get up at 7am and be doing till 8-9pm each night.
 

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Guys I need phsicologic help.
I know it can sound stupid but I need help to do not fap every other day.
I feel like if I vent my frustration on masturbation... But I do it too much and obviously I feel tired and exhausted because of this.
How do you do to avoid this?
Sorry for this stupid topic but I'm feeling like if I'm becoming a slave of myself masturbation.
Cold showers and meditation help as well, but at the beginning, going out and being active outside your house is most effective.
Could also read Your Brain on Porn, for helping with the change of mindset.
 

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Almost all religion ban masturabtion. If you are strong beliver maybe this will help. But I do not think so. So maybe ballheadbuddha is right and check Your Brain on Porn.
 
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I have been doing NoFap for around 5 years. NoFap pulled me out of a rut and fixed most my issues (depression, social anxiety mostly) - except my hairloss increased after NoFap. And then I went on Propecia and fucked it all up.

PFS is very similar to the NoFap flatline. People who masturbate a lot have a lot of the same issues, especially once they quit porn and masturbation: vision problems, numb penis, no erections, anhedonia, zero libido, depression, anxiety. And it took months for me to get better. Although it always had a positive impact on me.

NoFap is definitely a good thing to do.

I also read a guy who had PFS for a long time and once he quit masturbating and quit doing excessive working out he recovered from it. I read it on PropeciaHelp. This was not too long ago. I think he recovered after 10+ years a few months ago.

I also notice I feel better when I do not exercise. It is incomparable. So that is why I am going to train smarter instead of making my body tired constantly. I was already doing a lot less than I used to and I even had better gains. So I am going to give my body more rest for 2-3 months, see what it does. I will still train but smarter - in the 70%-75% range.

Now you could say he did not have PFS or this and that. But as you can see a lot of side effects can overlap. Masturbation is not healthy especially when you are already sick.

The trick with NoFap is to see that you have been conditioned to pornography and it is used to keep you enslaved. Do you want to be a slave?

Why is pornography free? Tell me that. Why do you have to pay for everything except pornography. I know the answer.

Force yourself to not fantasise for a while. And just cut out masturbation as an option. A lot of shit will come up. Because most men masturbate more when they are stressed or lonely. Deal with the problems. Learn how to deal with stress other ways. Look it straight in the eyes.
 
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I have been doing NoFap for around 5 years. NoFap pulled me out of a rut and fixed most my issues (depression, social anxiety mostly) - except my hairloss increased after NoFap. And then I went on Propecia and fucked it all up.

PFS is very similar to the NoFap flatline. People who masturbate a lot have a lot of the same issues, especially once they quit porn and masturbation: vision problems, numb penis, no erections, anhedonia, zero libido, depression, anxiety. And it took months for me to get better. Although it always had a positive impact on me.

NoFap is definitely a good thing to do.

I also read a guy who had PFS for a long time and once he quit masturbating and quit doing excessive working out he recovered from it. I read it on PropeciaHelp. This was not too long ago. I think he recovered after 10+ years a few months ago.

I also notice I feel better when I do not exercise. It is incomparable. So that is why I am going to train smarter instead of making my body tired constantly. I was already doing a lot less than I used to and I even had better gains. So I am going to give my body more rest for 2-3 months, see what it does. I will still train but smarter - in the 70%-75% range.

Now you could say he did not have PFS or this and that. But as you can see a lot of side effects can overlap. Masturbation is not healthy especially when you are already sick.

The trick with NoFap is to see that you have been conditioned to pornography and it is used to keep you enslaved. Do you want to be a slave?

Why is pornography free? Tell me that. Why do you have to pay for everything except pornography. I know the answer.

Force yourself to not fantasise for a while. And just cut out masturbation as an option. A lot of shit will come up. Because most men masturbate more when they are stressed or lonely. Deal with the problems. Learn how to deal with stress other ways. Look it straight in the eyes.
What do you think it could be fine to masturbate, I mean every how many days between? Like once in a month, once every 2 months…?
I also feel better if I do not excercise, or if I do it with moderation.
Why is pornography free? you know the answer, tell me cause I don't know, I only can guess it.
Thank you!
 

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What do you think it could be fine to masturbate, I mean every how many days between? Like once in a month, once every 2 months…?
I also feel better if I do not excercise, or if I do it with moderation.
Why is pornography free? you know the answer, tell me cause I don't know, I only can guess it.
Thank you!
I would just cut it out completely in the beginning if you are really addicted like I was. Since it always led me to look at porn after a while. But if you are not the typical addict I would say once a month is OK if you need to.

If you are very addicted you will get withdrawal symptoms like headaches, irritation, insomnia, anxiety, etc. And this can take a while. But just tell yourself: no fapping, no matter what. Maybe once a month (without porn) but like I said if you are very addicted don't masturbate at all.

This can sound like a conspiracy but I don't understand why else porn is free in a capitalist society. Making porn COSTS money. OK maybe the ads give a lot of revenue. Don't know. But still it is weird a product like that is completely free.

It is to keep men busy. To keep them from doing things in real life. Abstaining will give you a lot of energy and motivation. When you give men porn they will be more lazy and less likely to do anything against their suffering.

Also I think men use porn to deal with stress like people also use alcohol. So you take it away you will see some things in your life you will not like probably. Since addictions cover it up.
 

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I would just cut it out completely in the beginning if you are really addicted like I was. Since it always led me to look at porn after a while. But if you are not the typical addict I would say once a month is OK if you need to.

If you are very addicted you will get withdrawal symptoms like headaches, irritation, insomnia, anxiety, etc. And this can take a while. But just tell yourself: no fapping, no matter what. Maybe once a month (without porn) but like I said if you are very addicted don't masturbate at all.

This can sound like a conspiracy but I don't understand why else porn is free in a capitalist society. Making porn COSTS money. OK maybe the ads give a lot of revenue. Don't know. But still it is weird a product like that is completely free.

It is to keep men busy. To keep them from doing things in real life. Abstaining will give you a lot of energy and motivation. When you give men porn they will be more lazy and less likely to do anything against their suffering.

Also I think men use porn to deal with stress like people also use alcohol. So you take it away you will see some things in your life you will not like probably. Since addictions cover it up.
Ok I will try to do no-fap… I think I can do it.
Not sure I can no fap for so long cause I have a lot of friends and girls around me and I am not sure I can avoid sex.
Thank you for the advises, I on the no-fap mentality now!
 

RebelWithACause

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Ok I will try to do no-fap… I think I can do it.
Not sure I can no fap for so long cause I have a lot of friends and girls around me and I am not sure I can avoid sex.
Thank you for the advises, I on the no-fap mentality now!
Cool man. You don't have to avoid girls. Just don't masturbate and don't watch porn. That on itself will improve your life a lot. But like I said sometimes it can be hard when you are bored, lonely or you have a bit of stress. Need to be strong in those moments.
 
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wuf

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Cool man. You don't have to avoid girls. Just don't masturbate and don't watch porn. That on itself will improve your life a lot. But like I said sometimes it can be hard when you are bored, lonely or you have a bit of stress. Need to be strong in those moments.
Will do it, promise!
Thanks!
 

wuf

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I'll jump on the nofap train as well @wuf , I've used it as a crutch for too long!

Let the suffering begin lol!
Yes!((
I agree with the no fap and I trust about the results it can bring by doing it and I seriously want to try.
It is also true that after 3 - 4 days with no fap, I get very nervous and need to do it but I will try to stay far away from it...
@Chapman lets start this match, who can last the longer without flapping!...This could be a motivation too!))
 
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This can sound like a conspiracy but I don't understand why else porn is free in a capitalist society. Making porn COSTS money. OK maybe the ads give a lot of revenue. Don't know. But still it is weird a product like that is completely free.
Pornhub wouldn't have made billions of dollars if teenagers had to enter their parents credit card details everytime they wanted to watch porn. Ads run the whole internet economy, facebook is free and Zuckerberg is one of the richest guys on the planet
 

RebelWithACause

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Pornhub wouldn't have made billions of dollars if teenagers had to enter their parents credit card details everytime they wanted to watch porn. Ads run the whole internet economy, facebook is free and Zuckerberg is one of the richest guys on the planet
You have to involve The Zuck again? I thought we were done with him. Haha

It makes sense what you say. Could be that they do earn a lot from ads.
 

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I have been doing NoFap for around 5 years. NoFap pulled me out of a rut and fixed most my issues (depression, social anxiety mostly) - except my hairloss increased after NoFap. And then I went on Propecia and fucked it all up.

PFS is very similar to the NoFap flatline. People who masturbate a lot have a lot of the same issues, especially once they quit porn and masturbation: vision problems, numb penis, no erections, anhedonia, zero libido, depression, anxiety. And it took months for me to get better. Although it always had a positive impact on me.

NoFap is definitely a good thing to do.

I also read a guy who had PFS for a long time and once he quit masturbating and quit doing excessive working out he recovered from it. I read it on PropeciaHelp. This was not too long ago. I think he recovered after 10+ years a few months ago.

I also notice I feel better when I do not exercise. It is incomparable. So that is why I am going to train smarter instead of making my body tired constantly. I was already doing a lot less than I used to and I even had better gains. So I am going to give my body more rest for 2-3 months, see what it does. I will still train but smarter - in the 70%-75% range.

Now you could say he did not have PFS or this and that. But as you can see a lot of side effects can overlap. Masturbation is not healthy especially when you are already sick.

The trick with NoFap is to see that you have been conditioned to pornography and it is used to keep you enslaved. Do you want to be a slave?

Why is pornography free? Tell me that. Why do you have to pay for everything except pornography. I know the answer.

Force yourself to not fantasise for a while. And just cut out masturbation as an option. A lot of shit will come up. Because most men masturbate more when they are stressed or lonely. Deal with the problems. Learn how to deal with stress other ways. Look it straight in the eyes.
I agree with everything your saying, however porn is free purely from economic forces.. in 2006 - 7 a large media group bought out all the large pay sites while they built the free tube sites it was a total takeover and shift from the pay model to focus on advertising and redirects to live cam sites as a means to support it..
At that time the avg life of a paid cc member went from 6 months from the early heyday to 1 month so it was heading that way regardless..

Anyway, full agreement on the nofap, and overlap