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Again what is the difference b/w the modern medicine and what people are following on alternative treatments !?

If one try to suppress something that is elevated what is the long term benefit of doing it !?

To just test if it makes you feel better knowing it lowers what might be high, just to make sure that the thing is high, that seems fine, but otherwise does not seem as a real solution.
 

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Had some caffeine today (50mg) after not having any for ~4 weeks. No idea why people love it, had no positive effects from it but did get irritable and anxious with a pounding heart.
I take my coffee with gelatin, milk, sugar, and coconut oil and I get no stress response even if I drink it on an empty stomach.
 
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4 weeks no coffee is pretty good. good job.
been doing iced aeropress coffee + gelatin + whey lately (100-200cals). sometimes almond milk creamer + cacoa + banana to add 1000 calories.
for no reason except fun, with cordyceps, eluthero, and rhodalia last couple days. well also to see if helps mood* and stuff. did (the herbs) and injury a bit. and some other stuff. saw physio today too. gelatin etc no longer mess stomach up all that much, nor does gluten occasionally or even a ton of it a couple x a week, with metameucil. the rest of ocguy's/ gut health protocol would probably fix my stomach. i introduced things slowly.

* = shifting mood quickly. anxiety, pounding heart, up and down, etc. i mean that's why added herbs after 16months or way more no prohoromones and like 8-9mo no PCT. pcT i was ripped at 188-192lb too. Now im RIPPED at 172-176lb but that is FAR SKINNIER.

Anyways all that aside, I have zero doubt caffiene is bad for mood, adhd, mood disorders, people who are moody, have sleep/ wakefulness issues, cycling sleep, 24 hr sleep disorder etc. not ALL of them, but plenty of them. I still like it. I quit (not on purpose) like 11mo in crash days pfs. took it while water fasting (black). and most time since, esp on ADD meds. but usually keep it from .5-4shots espresso a day, sometimes none. definitely not the best stimulant AT ALL. can cut doses of other ones, can be helpful when EVERYONE ELSE is drinking and getting all fucked up. (something to do and be a bit social, meet ppl). same w smoking/ vaping a tiny bit (that's antisocial banned throughout canada soon too). Yeah not sure why i said that, i dont vape to be sociable, i hide that too even if not frowned upon.

Choline, in this one respect only, like Lith or like Lamictal makes me not want to use ANYTHING (much of the time it has this affect). Except vaping/cigs. Acetylcholine, which nicotine mimics. Choline is used in bp patients as per studies to ameliorate cocaine, methamphetamine, and possibly alcohol substance use disorders. Helps caffiene a little too.
 
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@brix are you saying the gelatin and sugar make it more tolerable, or are you saying NO amt of coffee gives you ANY stress response, ever? Just wondering.
I think you are on TEI. surely that would fix that. Unless........ you mean you enjoy it, and you have no ill effect from it whatsoever at any time, ever.
if that's what you mean, and I don't think it is, perhaps a genetic mutation that renders caffiene harmless to you a la Area-1255.
 

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@MNK99 i think coffee needs sugar, fat, and protein to not produce a stress response. Every morning I have that combo BEFORE I eat any food and I feel good. After I eat, it doesn’t matter what I put in my coffee and I feel good.
 
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nice good to know. thanks man @brix. I don't know bro lol. Could be a fast 1 thing vs a slow 1 thing. I can have black coffee after last meal 8am, 2pm, 5pm, 10pm, 3am, etc, and feel good. Black coffee meal end signifies no more eating. Had 2 crepes maybe 4000 4300cals and 200grams protein today. Felt a bit sick for a couple hours. But slept. In crash crepes strawberry nutella banana would literally feel like dying also no digestion. Still ripped. But yes that isn't good for me probably. But* I added whey. Coffee felt better than crepe to be honest. I had an extra 18000 cals pre Oct last week. Jesus Christ it is now Friday, God's Day. Actually it's Thursday, but nearly Friday.
 
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Noticed that when i take potassiumchloride on its own i feel like crap, i think it raises my aldosterone and cortisol or something which would make sense. It gives me muscle cramps in my legs and a headache. Feel irritable, very cold etc. No good

When i take magnesium on its own (200mg) i feel pretty good and sleep really well.
 

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Ever take in day? I take morning and night... Calms me right down, like a shot of haldol.
Just a bit. 400mg 400mg. If more stims used, then sometimes hella more. But I try and keep it down. Probably slowing me down making me fat, I'll stop using it.
I will become sub essential bodyfat soon. That way I can literally fly. Amazing Idea?
 

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Ever take in day? I take morning and night... Calms me right down, like a shot of haldol.
Just a bit. 400mg 400mg. If more stims used, then sometimes hella more. But I try and keep it down. Probably slowing me down making me fat, I'll stop using it.
I will become sub essential bodyfat soon. That way I can literally fly. Amazing Idea?
potassium is supposed to speed you up i guess, increases thyroid
 

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Wait you had a surgery before everything got bad?? That's news to me.

Honestly, people here should just have a detailed medical history in their signatures. Would save so much confusion
definitely would not save confusion. but those confusing types are fine anyways.
 

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i crashed 3 days ago, got hit with the flu body is freaking out. Panic attacks and constant anxiety/feel like im going to die. Bad nightmares about past experiences etc, feel horrible feel like i cant breathe. No appetite, complete insomnia maybe sleep 2 hrs is wake up in a state of panic freaking out :/
 

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OK so WTF. I crashed hard with the flu last week and now that i’m better from it i feel like my CFS is completely GONE. I feel great since getting the flu, emotions back online, healthy libido, feel happiness and small things make me happy again... Feels amazing, i hope it stays but i also feel scared that its gonna go downhill again
 

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It feels like my adrenals are pumping like crazy, sweating easily feeling very hot. Retaining about 5-6 pounds of water since yesterday, weight shot up from 125lbs to 130 in about 24 hrs. Happy to see my weight going up, want to get back to 135 or so upcoming few months.

Bad headache though, blood pressure is probably really high. Normally runs low at 100-90/50 or so.
 

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OK so WTF. I crashed hard with the flu last week and now that i’m better from it i feel like my CFS is completely GONE. I feel great since getting the flu, emotions back online, healthy libido, feel happiness and small things make me happy again... Feels amazing, i hope it stays but i also feel scared that its gonna go downhill again
what were you doing before Flu?
 

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what were you doing before Flu?
i took ephedrine and caffeine stack for ~1 week, 2 times daily (20/200) and lifting weights 4 times a week run 3 times a week. I quit the caffeine/ephedrine after a week though, felt crap on it. Crazy nightmares

Diet = Moderate carb low/moderate fat high protein

Did also take a lot of ibuprofen and naproxen due to pain, probably 1200mg ibuprofen every day + 440mg naproxen sodium before bed.