my PSSD log (10mg fluoxetine ruined me)

buffkin14

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May 2015 I was depressed and started taking 10mg fluoxetine every day for a couple months. After that I felt better and stopped and I felt no bad side effects

fast forward

February 2017 I started the same medicine and dosage and maybe a month or two in I start feeling bad side effects. I stop taking the medicine in maybe April or May 2017 because of these side effects

Unfortunately these side effects never go away, if anything they got a little worse at first.

The side effects included in order of when I noticed them if I remember correctly
-stopped getting morning wood/nocturnal erections
-penis felt weird
-often trouble sleeping. I would wake up in the middle of the night with half a night sleep and wouldn't be able to fall back asleep
-penis sometimes felt weird after masterbation. almost uncomfortable
-noticed penis was not getting proper bloodflow it used to get and I could not get erections the way I used to
-orgasm quality decreased
at this point I stop taking the SSRI medication
-all symptoms continue after ceasing this
-notice my sperm volume is drastically lower than it used to be (maybe less than 20% of the volume)
-notice sometimes my sperm is less thick/white and more watery
-when I masterbate the sperm does not shoot out with high pressure force all over the place in spurts, it sort of just oozes out now

I read symptoms and think maybe if I take some natural testosterone boosting pills it will help me so I start this in maybe early June

I go to doctor and in August end up finding out from Blood test I have extremely low testosterone
I also find out I have very high Estrogen levels in early september
I notice I can no longer get runner's high at the end of the run / the adrenaline rush and tingles in your body that make you finish strong

I stop taking the testosterone supplement and I find pssd suggests ST JOHN'S WORT
I take this starting middle of september and notice my numbness is starting to go away and first couple nights I get strong morning wood erection
I feel tingles like I used to I do not know how to describe the tingles almost like when you get goosebumps and a chill down your spine. I have had them all my life but forgot about them after SSRI. I feel them again after starting st johns wort but it is weak
I start doing kegel exercises to lift my penis up and it feels very numb but I feel like I am training an atrophic limb that has been paralyzed and trying to relearn how to use the nerves there. this sometimes causes the tingles in my spine
st johns wort generally made me feel very happy sometimes

More bloodwork comes back in october, I still have very low testosterone (like low 200's), my estrogen is extremely high (like very high) and my prolactin levels are slightly high as well (15.3?)

sometime around sept or oct after st johns wort initial effects stopped and I realized it would not cure me, i tried other things

KUDZU root seemed to have no effect
LICORICE ROOT had a definitely weird effect. A day or two after I took it, I would not feel any numbness in my penis, my ball sack would hang very low and feel not numb at all. sometimes, my balls would actually hurt almost like I had blueballs from this I do not know how to describe it. I would take this every now and then but never regularly. Sometime I gave up on the st johns wort after a couple months

doctor gives me some viagra but not much. maybe once every 2-4 weeks I take one viagra before bed to try to give good bloodflow to penis while asleep but im not sure if it helps

Sometime in October I try the 6 day ella trial with 2.5 mg dose x 6 days of ellaone pill
after day 5 I wake up in night with hardest erection I had since the SSRI
for about a week my numbness is completely gone, libido is higher, erection quality and orgasm quality better
semen feels more white and less watery again, maybe the volume is even a little higher but is still a fraction of what it used to be

To combat the high prolactin in November? I started taking

DOPA MUCUNA and
ASHWAGANDHA root

these seemed to slightly improve my numbness as well and slightly improve blood flow to penis and maybe even boost libido a little. maybe the pressure of which my semen came out slightly increased so it doesnt ooze out as much but it still does not spurt out like it used to

LATEST bloodwork comes back and I find out my estrogen level has completely HALVED and is in normal range but my prolactin is even slightly higher now out of normal range since i started the ashawganda whichg I thought would lower it

MRI reveals I have no pituitary tumor which could be causing my high prolactin, we do not know why it is high.

IN mid december I see the ZINC FINGER THEORY thread on this forum and decide to order the
L-HISTIDINE
L-CYSTEINE
after a couple days of this I honestly FEEL CURED

a few days before this I tried micro-dosing the fluoxetine 2.5 mg once as well, I don't know if the effect was there. I had done it before a month ago and felt a hard erection afterwards.

-zero numbess
-nocturnal erections
-morning wood
-better stronger longer lasting erections, balls feel normal, dick feels normal. BEST ERECTIONS ALL YEAR OCCUR DURING THIS PERIOD
-semen volume starts increasing every day and less watery/more white. it even seems to spurt a little bit more but still not pre-SSRI levels
-orgasms feel amazing, libido increased
-bloodflow to penis feels normal

THIS CURE FEELING DID NOT LAST THOUGH it ended a week or two ago

I started this maybe DEC 20 and the benefits last maybe 10 days
doctor gave me testosterone patches, I try one of them one night wake up with hardest morning wood ive had

after this everything starts regressing. I notice if I don't take the cysteine/histidine for a day the numbness starts to come back ever so slightly. i always immediately take it again because i am afraid of the numbness coming back full force.

anyways most of these symptoms seem to regressed back to where I am at right now.

Overall My baseline from PSSD is much better than it was almost a year ago when it started

-I no longer struggle sleeping most nights
-Bloodflow to penis does not feel normal but the baseline is much higher ever since September. March-August were worst months of my life I thought my penis was dying from atrophy but now it has some bloodflow
-My erection quality is not like it was a week or two ago but overall baseline is still higher.
-Semen volume is low as it always has been since PRE-SSRI. I am very depressed about this I don't know if I'll ever gush out large volumes of stick white cum like I used to. It is less than 20% of what I used to do pre-SSRI and it is more watery with not as much white as should be
-I don't get morning or nocturnal hard wood erections as of now. But I do feel slight bloodflow which is better than most of what used to happen. It is like almost a half-erection morning wood, it isn't completely soft and shriveled feeling but there is some bloodflow

I tried a third or fourth micro-dose of 1.0-2.5 mg of fluoxetine (maybe did this once a month past few months) but it didn't seem to do the trick

Prior to SSRI I was taking biotin supplement for about 2 years. I also took fish oil every now and then. and my whole life I have taken a multivitamin generic brand every day most days.

Since ssri I have occasionally taken fish oil. I try to take multivitamin (half of one) every day. I drink lots of water and get exercise and sleep. past 3 days I started the dopa mucuna/ashwa again with cystei/histi in case it was the combo 4 of them that gave me the cured-feeling

I took a Lysine pill today. I will probably take another Histidine/Cysteine today.

As of now I don't know what to do. A week or two ago I felt normalness again I tasted what it was like to be cured and alive again but now I am back to this.

I might try the ella trial again I do not know.

For now I will continue muiltivitamin and cysteine/histidine combo maybe a fish oil or zinc pill every now and then

numbness feels like it is mostly cured

on weekend i might take a viagra before bed maybe that is helping long-term

I don't know what to do sorry this was probably messy I tried to remember anything but it's been a very long year. the worst year of my life. But I am better than I was half a year ago and I hope I can find a cure...
 

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Nice to know that you are feeling better @buffkin14!

I wanna know a few things:

So how do you tried the low dosing? I mean you took it every day?
Did you felt improvements after it?
 

buffkin14

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Nice to know that you are feeling better @buffkin14!

I wanna know a few things:

So how do you tried the low dosing? I mean you took it every day?
Did you felt improvements after it?
So I did not take every day

One day in Oct or Nov I just decided to cut one of my remaining 10mg pill in half (so maybe 4-5 mg) and then took it. I felt weird in the head like when you first start the medicine a bit after. I noticed I got a hard erection within an hour or two of taking it. Then things went back to normal.

Then I made sure to do 2.5 mg and tried that again maybe 3-4 weeks later

Then sometime in December right before taking the Cysteine/Histidine I took a 2 mg piece

and maybe 10 days after that I took another 2 mg piece

so not every day but maybe just 4 times spread out over 2-3 month

The biggest improvement I noticed was the one I took right before I started Histidine/Cysteine in middle-december where I experienced that 10 day period of feeling cured but I believed that to be the cysteine/histidine

the one I took a few days ago feels like it did nothing for me aside from the usual head-feels-weird and slight wood immediately following taking it
 

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Thanks for making a log, from my own experience it helps to go back months later and see what helped and what didnt. For most of us this is a marathon battle, not a sprint
 

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@buffkin14 interesting, well if it was the low dosing, maybe it will take months to be recovered(as happened to pete), if was the cysteine/histidine, even better! a safer thing to try!

Anyways, I hope that you recover!
 

buffkin14

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the other day, in addition to my half-multivitamin and hist/cyst, I took an L-Lysine pill as well

that night had a nocturnal erection and woke with some morning wood

the next day I substituted the L-Lysine with a Zinc and did not experience the same

today I experimented by taking both. Will report results
 

buffkin14

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past few days numbness returned if it doesnt go away i will go back on st johns wort maybe that truly cured my numbness while i was on it for months
 

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past few days numbness returned if it doesnt go away i will go back on st johns wort maybe that truly cured my numbness while i was on it for months

Why dont you try the protocol that I gave to Scenes. in zinc finger thread.

You should understand that taking histidine and cysteine will eventually cause low copper and thus your gains did not last.
 

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Glycine 500mg
Lysine 500mg
Histidine 250mg approx (more and I get congested overnight)
Copper 2mg
Magnesium 400mg
Potassium 500mg
 

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@buffkin14 you need to listen what Jaxx stated here:

Trying out different stuff every day is unlikely to gain true insights, just my thoughts.
You did low dose protocol which can take a couple of months to work, and god knows what it does to the body and right after, you started Histidine/Cysteine and added some other stuff. I know very well how hard it is and how we want to get rid of this shit, but this kind of approach is simply not good! Try one protocol at a time, and before jumping in another, give the body some time.
 

buffkin14

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Glycine 500mg
Lysine 500mg
Histidine 250mg approx (more and I get congested overnight)
Copper 2mg
Magnesium 400mg
Potassium 500mg
there is 2 mg of copper in my multivitamin so I just need other things right?

I'm sorry that other thread is very active and lots of complicated discussion I don't quite understand all of it

I will get some magnesium and potassium and copper I already have histidine and lysine

I need magnesium too. My multivitamin has magnesium and copper but it does not have those high of doses
 
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buffkin14

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@buffkin14 you need to listen what Jaxx stated here:



You did low dose protocol which can take a couple of months to work, and god knows what it does to the body and right after, you started Histidine/Cysteine and added some other stuff. I know very well how hard it is and how we want to get rid of this ****, but this kind of approach is simply not good! Try one protocol at a time, and before jumping in another, give the body some time.
I will it just the last low dose I tried actually made it worse instead of better

I will try taking more minerals like gbolduev said
 

buffkin14

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ok I have to order glycine and copper online but

I did my multivitamin +
500mg L-cysteine
500mg L-histidine
500mg magnesium
500mg L-lysine
200mg Potassium

and a

5000 iu D3 vitamin

and my multivitamin has 2mg of copper

i will not take the st johns wort again for now

i will say as of today the numbness was not as bad as it was past few days after friday. it all started when i microdosed again few days ago
 
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buffkin14

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So last night the numbness ended up going away much. Today I took the same thing I took yesterday (but 400 mg potassium instead of 200 mg)

Numbness was gone at least 95-99%

how is this possible that these minerals could have such a positive effect? I will say I had a little trouble sleeping last night but it wasn't so bad. shouldn't take longer to come into effect than 1 day? how are these minerals so quick and effective???

i hope this finally cures my pssd so bad
 

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So last night the numbness ended up going away much. Today I took the same thing I took yesterday (but 400 mg potassium instead of 200 mg)

Numbness was gone at least 95-99%

how is this possible that these minerals could have such a positive effect? I will say I had a little trouble sleeping last night but it wasn't so bad. shouldn't take longer to come into effect than 1 day? how are these minerals so quick and effective???

i hope this finally cures my pssd so bad
So exactly what did you take? I see you have some stuff on order, what things have improved your sensitivity so quick, potassium, magnesium & copper?
 

buffkin14

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So exactly what did you take? I see you have some stuff on order, what things have improved your sensitivity so quick, potassium, magnesium & copper?
all of this stuff i started yesterday when i had had numbness return for a few days

I did my multivitamin +
500mg L-cysteine
500mg L-histidine
500mg magnesium
500mg L-lysine
200mg Potassium (400 mg of it today though)
5000 iu D3 vitamin
and my multivitamin has 2mg of copper

I was already taking cysteine/histidine prior so it was the other stuff that was new

the only thing that is on order is the glycine and the copper pill (that will be copper independent of my multivitamin)

I will note a took lysine a few times every now and then and it did seem to help too. so I think it must have been potassium, magnesium, lysine, and increased copper dosage. somewhere in there appears to have helped me (perhaps in combination with histidine/cysteine)

we will find out how much of a cure this actually is if it helps my other symptoms
-morning wood
-nocturnal erections
-orgasm quality
-semen volume
-semen pressure
-libido
-erection quality
 
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