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K8668B

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Why not try Triptorelin? How high is your LH
What's Triptorelin? I couldnt get my LH measured. The saliva test i ordered didnt have it. And i could never get any good labs out of my PCP doctor/doctors office in over 10+ years. I bought this saliva test kit from a local pharmacy in my town. Its taken me this long just to finally get what i got lol.
 

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What's Triptorelin? I couldnt get my LH measured. The saliva test i ordered didnt have it. And i could never get any good labs out of my PCP doctor/doctors office in over 10+ years. I bought this saliva test kit from a local pharmacy in my town. Its taken me this long just to finally get what i got lol.
Triptorelin - Wikipedia

You can try that just like Admiral. It kickstarts the LH into producing hormones again.
 
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K8668B

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I just know there is a cure to PFS, and we can all be healed! I have had those "good days" before while having pfs, and i have had occasional full-size 100% erections while having PFS too. they werent spontaneous, but they were full-size from porn and powerful mental stimulation/fantasy/imagination years ago. i stopped the bullshit porn over 2 years ago. ive seen the light at the end of the tunnell. (sorry for the TMI), but what im saying is, that if i can have those occasional "good days", then i can have being cured as well! Its a simple fix! Same for other PFS people too! Im really happy with these tests i took!
 
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Well I have some good news! Ive been having some much better days now. For 7 days in a row. From one simple little thing...CARBOHYDRATES!!!

Now the "carb-backloading" technique has been a known idea/method for relieving some of the PFS symptoms. And it works, and i like it alot. But unlike carb backloading, i try to actually get a fairly decent amount of carbs in on days that i dont workout. ill work out 4-5 days a week, but if i dont workout on day 6 or whatever, ill still try to get my sweet spot number of carbs in for the day. im not a lazy/idle person, so im burning it off. it is not going to fat.

actually, adding more CARBS and fats into my diet, has helped me so much. im actually burning more fat by adding more fats and carbs into my diet. crazy huh!!! they always told you that "protein was the most important one". its important, but too much of it would give me horrible gas, fart sulfur, and upset my gut/digestive system. i was taking in super high amounts of protein too. when your gut/digestive is uncomfortable, then your mind and everything else gets uncomfortable. your gut is your second brain. so after many years, i have switched up my macro-nutrient ratio. prefarably more in favor of carbs. maybe even fats too. key- GOOD fats and GOOD carbs.

carbs are building me more muscle than protein! and making me lose fat!!!

its been helping towards pfs, because itll keep me in a great mood. it helps the brain. it helps my hormones, and it increases my sexual some too!!! =) i feel like it even helps my skin too.

i have to keep doing it for it to stick, but things have become alot more managable for me now. anything in the right direction helps.

ive been horny as hell, and fantasizing about women so much lately. i had a good experience with a long distance lady friend in the bedroom, and i learned that im a little bit better now. i can manage my sexual so much better now, that i think i can perform at quite a decent level. i am not cured yet, but somewhat better for sure! im ready to start fucking chics like no other now. i should be at least halfway decent. i might even have them coming back for more heheh. Even if they still leave me due to my PFS, i dont give a fuck anymore. i dont get attached anymore because i know what i have and what im dealing with. my head is clear too. as long as i get my d*ck wet, i am happy!!

carbohydrates!!

like anything else, PFS is about learning YOUR OWN individual system. we are all plagued with PFS, but yet different at the same time. i have put 2+ years of intense work/trial and error into this. and ive done other things subconsciously/inadvertently for 14 years or so now.

I feel like my PFS is pretty much mainly only sexual/hormonal. im still on the search for real anavar. androgens, dht, dhea, type of stuff is what i think. hoping to cycle such to achieve the proverbial "epigenetic change" as its called.
 

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Well I have some good news! Ive been having some much better days now. For 7 days in a row. From one simple little thing...CARBOHYDRATES!!!

Now the "carb-backloading" technique has been a known idea/method for relieving some of the PFS symptoms. And it works, and i like it alot. But unlike carb backloading, i try to actually get a fairly decent amount of carbs in on days that i dont workout. ill work out 4-5 days a week, but if i dont workout on day 6 or whatever, ill still try to get my sweet spot number of carbs in for the day. im not a lazy/idle person, so im burning it off. it is not going to fat.

actually, adding more CARBS and fats into my diet, has helped me so much. im actually burning more fat by adding more fats and carbs into my diet. crazy huh!!! they always told you that "protein was the most important one". its important, but too much of it would give me horrible gas, fart sulfur, and upset my gut/digestive system. i was taking in super high amounts of protein too. when your gut/digestive is uncomfortable, then your mind and everything else gets uncomfortable. your gut is your second brain. so after many years, i have switched up my macro-nutrient ratio. prefarably more in favor of carbs. maybe even fats too. key- GOOD fats and GOOD carbs.

carbs are building me more muscle than protein! and making me lose fat!!!

its been helping towards pfs, because itll keep me in a great mood. it helps the brain. it helps my hormones, and it increases my sexual some too!!! =) i feel like it even helps my skin too.

i have to keep doing it for it to stick, but things have become alot more managable for me now. anything in the right direction helps.

ive been horny as hell, and fantasizing about women so much lately. i had a good experience with a long distance lady friend in the bedroom, and i learned that im a little bit better now. i can manage my sexual so much better now, that i think i can perform at quite a decent level. i am not cured yet, but somewhat better for sure! im ready to start fucking chics like no other now. i should be at least halfway decent. i might even have them coming back for more heheh. Even if they still leave me due to my PFS, i dont give a fuck anymore. i dont get attached anymore because i know what i have and what im dealing with. my head is clear too. as long as i get my d*ck wet, i am happy!!

carbohydrates!!

like anything else, PFS is about learning YOUR OWN individual system. we are all plagued with PFS, but yet different at the same time. i have put 2+ years of intense work/trial and error into this. and ive done other things subconsciously/inadvertently for 14 years or so now.

I feel like my PFS is pretty much mainly only sexual/hormonal. im still on the search for real anavar. androgens, dht, dhea, type of stuff is what i think. hoping to cycle such to achieve the proverbial "epigenetic change" as its called.

you must be a fast oxidizier. fats and carbs increase NADPH and lower cortisol .


this is why some people feel better on keto, and some feel better on carbs.
 

K8668B

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you must be a fast oxidizier. fats and carbs increase NADPH and lower cortisol .


this is why some people feel better on keto, and some feel better on carbs.
Makes sense. I feel like it can increase cortisol at times too though. The carbs sometimes lately have been giving me so much adrenaline that it's keeping me awake later, and therefore interfering with my sleep schedule. And I've had this slight increased heart rate for the last 2 or 3 days. But I need to eliminate those bang energy drinks too. I've some slight mania, but nothing terrible, for the last few days too. I just then eat even more carbs to nullify the fast paced feeling. The high carbs and high fats could either lower cortisol or increase it. I am unsure just yet. Very interesting.
 
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K8668B

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Your micros and macros are important. And fitness/bodybuilding sources always said "take lots of protein". Well super high protein always messed me up. according to this/these articles, low fat diets can lower test and androstenedione. Isn't androstenedione the same thing that was in super r andro? Interesting!!!

Learning your own optimal macronutrient ratio and micros as well is very crucial, and can help you alot!
 

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Well i stumbled upon an anti-aging doctor's office not too far from where i live, and decided to go with it. Its been 3 weeks since i discovered the place, and i had my first meeting/consultation with the doctor 3 days ago. Cool dude, looks the part, great background, phD, former pro powerlifter, and former minor league football player. He was very knowledgeable and helpful, and is familiar with propecia. He knows what propecia can do, but im not sure if he is aware of PFS, but i think he knows the gist of it overall. So i finally had bloodwork done, and for the first time i will FINALLY have a full blood panel, or an almost full blood panel. and i believe i will be getting hormones during my next visit which is 10 days from now. My main goal is to beat pfs, while a secondary goal, (important, but nowhere near as important as my first goal of beating pfs), is to have my dream physique. a great physique that looks good and healthy, and aesthetic and cut, but not stupid big, or overdone to the point where it turns women off, or to the point where i dont feel healthy. and to not make my face look older either. i mentioned anavar to the doctor too, and he can get it for me. pharmaceutical grade. but im not sure what he will say after he goes over my blood panel with me. i do owe him a fairly big lump sum of cash for the first visit after the consultation/bloodwork, and some other stuff.

Im pissed though, because my work schedule changed for the two days prior to my visit with the doctor, and i wasnt aware that i was going to get the opportunity to get my bloodwork done with this visit. so i stayed up late the last two nights prior, and still set my alarm for 7am the day of my appointment, so i wouldnt fuck up my sleep schedule, thus purposely only getting 5 hours of sleep. so im worried that my testosterone number will be alot lower than it normally is, and the other hormones will be off too. i am pissed. i should have asked to wait another day to do blood work. i dont know why i didnt. i have this curse when it comes to getting my testosterone checked through blood because i swear it always happens on a day where im either sick, or underslept!! its such a petty curse!

i asked specifically for total testosterone/free testosterone, SHBG, LH, FSH, dht, estradiol, and progesterone i believe.

What i got tested was, CRPHS, CBC/DIFF, CMP, LIPID, Estradiol, free/total testosterone, FREE T3, FREE T4, TSH, total PSA, progesterone, FSH, and LH. I said SHBG too, and the woman drawing my blood said it was still in there, even though it wasnt written on the paper.
 
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Nice dude. You were following the herb cycling by cdsnuts right?
Yes, I was. That was awhile ago. I did it for 11 months. Zero relief in sexual symptoms from the herbs. I might have gotten some 5AR boosting from them, but i really think it was the coffee doing that for me, before I wore that receptor out from too much coffee/caffeine. If anything it was the other stuff in the protocol that helped me like cold showers, fasting/juice feasting, healthy diet. And alot of stuff from Chis protocol such as shutting off electronic devices at a certain hour, not starring into computer/cell phone screens for too long, sleep discipline, etc. And other little random things about myself that I discovered in the past 2+ years.
 

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I finally got some meaningful bloodwork done for the first time in 15 years since having this PFS crap. I've been seeing a doctor who works at an anti-aging clinic.

I didnt get my DHT measured. I wanted to though.

Total Testosterone was 416 ng/dl. The reference range was 280-800 ng/dl. LOW. (contrary to my good testosterone on my saliva test a few months back)

Free testosterone was 88pg/ml. The reference range was 50-210 pg/ml. LOW.

SHBG was 31.2 nmol/L. The reference range was 10-50 nmol/L. I guess i have an ideal/good SHBG

Progesterone was 0.4 ng/ml. Reference range was 0.1-0.2 ng/ml. HIGH. (contrary to my low-ish progesterone from my saliva test a few months back.)




FSH was 7.8 mIU/mL. Reference range was 0.9-10.9 mIU/ml. Good.

LH was 5.02 mIU/mL. Reference range was 2.80-6.80 mIU/ml. Good.

Free T3 was 3.5 pg/ml. Reference range was 2.3-4.2 pg/mL. Good.

Free T4 was 1.00 ng/dl. Reference range was 0.8-1.80 ng/dl. Good

TSH was 1.35 uIU/ml. reference range was 0.35-4.94 uIu/ml. good

Total PSA was 0.75 ng/ml. Reference range was 0-4 ng/ml. Good

Estradiol was 12pg/ml. reference range was 0-39 pg/ml. Good.


I had a bunch of other tests, including cholesterol and triglycerides, and all the other typical stuff. All of my other stuff was pretty good for the most part. My anti-aging doctor is aware of PFS, and that it basically can mess your system up, and also give you ED. Does he know everything about it?-No. But if he did, then we would all be cured by now. But im happy to take this step forward and finally get this info about myself. He didnt even want to put me on testosterone, or other steroids, or HCG because my levels (minus testosterone/free testosterone were healthy). And thats a good thing. He is suggesting me try clomid for now.
 
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K8668B

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F*ck no to clomid! Clomid is old news in PFS land. Pfs has been around for roughly 2 decades, and ive had it myself for about 14 years, and here i am finally getting my first somewhat full panel of bloodwork lmao. After a day of research, i decided no to clomid. Very bad in my opinion! Not good for alot of pfs people it seems. Many pfsers have come before me and already tried clomid years ago. Of course ive heard of clomid, and have seen it in the pfs forums many times over the last few years. And its an age old common PCT for steroid users, as myself and most here already know.


Spent hours researching on propeciahelp on people in the past trying clomid, google, and youtube. heres one of the youtube videos i watched. Dylan Gemmeli. Ive always liked this dude lol.

 
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F*ck no to clomid! Clomid is old news in PFS land. Pfs has been around for roughly 2 decades, and ive had it myself for about 14 years, and here i am finally getting my first somewhat full panel of bloodwork lmao. After a day of research, i decided no to clomid. Very bad in my opinion! Not good for alot of pfs people it seems. Many pfsers have come before me and already tried clomid years ago. Of course ive heard of clomid, and have seen it in the pfs forums many times over the last few years. And its an age old common PCT for steroid users, as myself and most here already know.


Spent hours researching on propeciahelp on people in the past trying clomid, google, and youtube. heres one of the youtube videos i watched. Dylan Gemmeli. Ive always liked this dude lol.

Yeah clomid hasn’t helped me or anyone on this forum. Raising hormones isn’t always the answer!
 

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Im mostly leaning towards NO on the idea of using clomid, but then again i am not 100% sure. I know it wont cure me or anyone else here, but who knows, i might consider it if it can maybe boost my energy/mood a tiny bit, and possibly help me focus and get through school, and i just got enrolled back into college. Maybe it can give me a slight edge for my studying. Maybe it can help me be a tiny bit more socially outgoing too. Maybe some new muscle gains.
 

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Im mostly leaning towards NO on the idea of using clomid, but then again i am not 100% sure. I know it wont cure me or anyone else here, but who knows, i might consider it if it can maybe boost my energy/mood a tiny bit, and possibly help me focus and get through school, and i just got enrolled back into college. Maybe it can give me a slight edge for my studying. Maybe it can help me be a tiny bit more socially outgoing too. Maybe some new muscle gains.
Why not take R-Andro? or the MuscleGelz stuff
 
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Im mostly leaning towards NO on the idea of using clomid, but then again i am not 100% sure. I know it wont cure me or anyone else here, but who knows, i might consider it if it can maybe boost my energy/mood a tiny bit, and possibly help me focus and get through school, and i just got enrolled back into college. Maybe it can give me a slight edge for my studying. Maybe it can help me be a tiny bit more socially outgoing too. Maybe some new muscle gains.
Yo man. This website has taught us that nutrition fed to people based on body chemistry is a big factor in fixing the hormonal system. For instance filling zinc deficiency leads to more testostosterone. Keeping electrolytes in balance leads to proper cortisol production.

I think you’d be a good candidate for nutritional balancing. I know you’re focusing on hormones, but at the top of the stream leading to the hormones lays nutritional balance. And I’m witnessing it strongly what it can do for a person once the gut is in a good enough place.

Just do me a favor and see how this helps you. Try doing magnesium chloride or sulfate baths. Try them for a week, every night and see how you feel after. Maybe up your vitamin c intake while you do so. Eat very clean.

I think you’re making it more complex than it needs to be getting anti-aging doctor involved.
 
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K8668B

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@RebelWithACause - I tried R andro 2 years ago, and it did nothing. I am under the impression that if you can order that stuff online, or to change the subject, "Steroids", online, then it is most likely bunk. If its that easy to obtain. Everybody would be on the shit if it worked that well, and it wouldnt be cheap either. I even one time ordered "anavar" online, and it pretty much didnt do a damn thing! I definitely think that anavar was bunk. I may be wrong. That's just my opinion when it comes to buying steroids and "prohormones" online. Might as well just get the real shit! (i mean try not to mess with those things, but you know what i mean)

I am pretty much at a point where my symptoms are fairly/quite manageable. Cured?-NO. Not quite pre-pfs, but not too far off either. I was at my best in late 2017. I was pre-pfs in all sides except the sexual. When coffee was still working on me. I have times where i feel pretty good. Its really just the sexual that gives me the most trouble, and even that i can boost up a tiny bit from things that ive learned from the cdsnuts protocol, and vitamins and minerals, and prolab horny goat weed. Things ive learned about myself in the past 2+ years through trial and error. Vitamin D3 5000 iu by solgar at bedtime helps me alot! Its gotta be the 5000iu in the capsule form by solgar. Zinc/copper too. I would only try Clomid if it doesnt make me worse, or ruin the manageable level i am at now.

@bruschi11 - I agree with you mostly. Vits and mins are amazing, and help alot. Vits and mins, especially zinc,are amongst some of the things that have literally helped me the absolute most! They have helped me alot from my own personal experiences. Like i mentioned before, zinc has helped me tremendously at times in the past, (never sticks, but its still a great thing. Has to be cycled. You have to feel it in your own system.), and vitamin C, magnesium, and other things! Ive felt pre-pfs on zinc/copper at times, just minus the sexual, and even the sexual got like a 25% boost or so from it. I will look into the magnesium chloride and sulfate baths. I do eat very clean in the meantime. I still workout and eat clean like mentioned from the cdsnuts protocol. i do get alot of vits and mins, and b vitamins too. The TEI thing doesnt seem accurate to me. Many people, (not all), seem to have not had progress with it for 12+ months or so. I think alot of these hair tests they take, come out very inaccurate, and theyre trying their recommended vit/min protocol from their inaccurate tests, and they're feeling worse, for 12+ months with no progress. It shouldnt take that long. That part seems like BS to me! Listen to your body! I do believe in and have experienced snapback, but yeah, seriously, it wouldnt take THAT long! Im not discrediting anyones effort though! Not at all! Nor am i being arrogant either. These people are warriors. But who has $200 dollars to throw around every month on inaccurate hairtests.

I need to start following other's logs on here. I dont get as many updates as i should. My browser is stupid
 
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