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Olski69

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Yes several times, I noticed symptoms months after stopping LGD and feel like it was another “perfect storm” scenario. I finally got tested for all hormones and was low test and low DHT. I tried several things before going on TRT which I currently am... clomid, cycling herbs, etc. and nothing stuck. R-Andro by far has helped me out the most but it only worked the first time.

When you say R andro only helped the first time, do you mean it helped you gain some ground in regards to symptoms (and they stuck) or it only helped whilst on it?
 

Olski69

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I felt better while on it the first time and it stuck but when I tried running it again it didn’t help with any symptoms
What symptoms in particular did it seem to help for you? Sorry for all the questions! Considering R andro myself, Ill have a read through your posts.
 

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What symptoms in particular did it seem to help for you? Sorry for all the questions! Considering R andro myself, Ill have a read through your posts.
No worries, I would say it helped depression and mental acuity significantly which stuck (but still worse than before) and it also helped with ED and tight scrotum which the ED part stuck but not the loosening.
I should mention I went in a 4 day juice cleanse before taking R Andro the first time and haven’t done that since.
 

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I have been running CDs protocol, but have not yet attempted R Andro. Like you, I'm also thinking about it. I'm also at SwoleSource and quite a few over there have run R Andro cycles. That said, I have no personal experience to share myself, but I have read quite a few that did have positive results at Swole. Recently someone reported R Andro helping with digestive issues and separately someone reported improvements related to stress response issues. I still experience both of these PFS symptoms.

Honestly, the only thing holding me back is the reality that this could somehow make me worse. Everyone is different and you just never know until you try it. We've seen plenty of times in PFS where something can be beneficial to one person, do nothing for the second person, and make the third person worse. I guess in the end, I've seen enough positives where I think I might try this in the near future.
 
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I have been running CDs protocol, but have not yet attempted R Andro. Like you, I'm also thinking about it. I'm also at SwoleSource and quite a few over there have run R Andro cycles. That said, I have no personal experience to share myself, but I have read quite a few that did have positive results at Swole. Recently someone reported R Andro helping with digestive issues and separately someone reported improvements related to stress response issues. I still experience both of these PFS symptoms.

Honestly, the only thing holding me back is the reality that this could somehow make me worse. Everyone is different and you just never know until you try it. We've seen plenty of times in PFS where something can be beneficial to one person, do nothing for the second person, and make the third person worse. I guess in the end, I've seen enough positives where I think I might try this in the near future.
I was doing better on TEI so I thought I would await to see if that made me better. I have had a few set backs recently which pushes me to try it. I nabbed a few of the last bottles before it sold out.

I have read about about quite a few cases on Swolesource and amongst others who have managed to get better, all seem to involve R andro within their protocol so it is looking more likely for me that I am going to be cycling it. I just want to make sure I am a little more stable with sleep etc so I can maximise my exercise during it.
 

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Has anybody on here tried triptorelin?
Admiral did. He took finasteride, you never took finasteride. LGD is known to be able shut people down. People who use steroids also use triptorelin for PCT to start their hormone production again.
 
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LGD shutdown asap. I.e. ostarine barely shutdown but muscle pumps sensation. LGD that sensation times 10 in day one. As in I cut 14-15 to 10-11% bfat in weeks on ostarine, while LGD was so harsh I threw it away in one or two days. Pre fin (by a couple mo maybe, who knows). Test to Ostarine suppression = 1:1 ish or 10:1 (can't recall),
and LGD is 10x more suppressive than that. Pre-abdominoplasty, went crazy trying to recomp, it worked, but I had crazy trainers. No way building muscle that fast and cutting fat without drugs after training 10yrs. (first yr maybe, but not usually).
 
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Admiral did. He took finasteride, you never took finasteride. LGD is known to be able shut people down. People who use steroids also use triptorelin for PCT to start their hormone production again.
Right, I guess the reason why I still follow these threads as opposed to just considering myself as someone who is shutdown is the fact that TRT doesn’t entirely fix all my symptoms. If I was just shut down I should feel fine after going on TRT. Also, my biggest physical symptom is the tight scrotum and smaller balls. I also now have depressed, worse memory, worse verbal recall, etc. which is more aligned with PFS symptoms than someone who just has low hormones. TRT has helped but I just completely crashed after taking Yohimbe a couple weeks ago and haven’t recovered, makes me think there is a lot more going on.
 

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Right, I guess the reason why I still follow these threads as opposed to just considering myself as someone who is shutdown is the fact that TRT doesn’t entirely fix all my symptoms. If I was just shut down I should feel fine after going on TRT. Also, my biggest physical symptom is the tight scrotum and smaller balls. I also now have depressed, worse memory, worse verbal recall, etc. which is more aligned with PFS symptoms than someone who just has low hormones. TRT has helped but I just completely crashed after taking Yohimbe a couple weeks ago and haven’t recovered, makes me think there is a lot more going on.
I also have taken Saw Palmetto once but I doubt that would do much I didn’t feel a difference
 

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Admiral did. He took finasteride, you never took finasteride. LGD is known to be able shut people down. People who use steroids also use triptorelin for PCT to start their hormone production again.
Has anyone else crashed because of Yohimbe bark and came back from that? I did a couple weeks ago and have been really struggling since. ED and really tight scrotum back to the worst it’s ever been. Any ideas?
 

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sorry that was not clear at all, I meant to say Bluelight.org or bluelight.ru, is a harm reduction forum in which many things are discussed, including yohimbine. I think I've seen some people recovering from that, there, but I haven't been there in like 2 years, and barely at all in 3-5 years. There's some good info there, people did similar things I did for pssd many years back (wasn't great, did it on own, didn't know till it was mostly gone or was so disorganized/ scatterbrained that I didn't care, I'm not one to follow, etc). Anyways, there's info there. Where there? not sure. i'd check but i can't go back there, bad memories, no time, etc. -- last went when titrating anti seizure/ bipolar medicine and crashing on finasteride. (going there healthy times, to optimize stimulant use, was totally fine). can go there again, but wouldn't know where to search. idk. srry.

I guess I can go there: But it looks totally different a bit/ they changed up the interface. Surprisingly not much found, it's mostly for harder drugs. Thought they'd have smthing Anyways:
-This is all i could find/ doesn't seem that useful tbh: @Capello7 :

-Also Area-1255 might know. Boris also. Helen as well. i read a lot. if you know all this/ my apologies.

Results for https://www.bluelight.org/xf/forums/ + yohimbe (without quotes):

Misc - Is a Yohimbine high any good??? | Bluelight.org
https://www.bluelight.org › Forums › Focus Forums › Other Drugs
Aug 13, 2015 - 10 posts - ‎7 authors
https://www.bluelight.org › ... › Neuroscience and Pharmacology Discussion Dec 25, 2016 - 20 posts - ‎8 authors
Yohimbe root is just too difficult to dose, and when the alkaloid is dosed in milligram amounts, I'd rather not risk having my blood pressure set ...Does Yohimbe work? | Bluelight.org
https://www.bluelight.org › Forums › Focus Forums › Other Drugs
Apr 9, 2002 - 13 posts - ‎10 authors
... topic on any search (maybe i'm just doin it wrong) but has anyone taken yohimbe? ... Visit our Recovery Support Forums ... www.yohimbe.org ...Harm Reduction - ⭐️ Biology, Pharmacology and Drugs 101 ⭐️ ...
https://www.bluelight.org › Forums › Focus Forums › Other Drugs

Mar 15, 2019 - Visit our Recovery Support Forums ..... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3549031/ ...... Panax ginseng, Nutmeg, Yohimbe, valproate chlorpheniramine, risperidone, olanzapine, ondansetron, ...... https://www.bluelight.org/xf/threads/codeine-megathread-v-whats-your-cyp2d6-genotype.863720/
Harm Reduction - DANGEROUS Drug Combos | Bluelight.orghttps://www.bluelight.org › Forums › Focus Forums › Other Drugs
Panax ginseng, Nutmeg, Yohimbe, valproate chlorpheniramine, risperidone, olanzapine, ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome


-don't freak out about these random 4 other search results:
-- Im sure i tried it 1x for fat loss, but i dont need it im super wired/ and focused at times on nothing. add adhd medicine surely dont need that crap (all i needed was way more calories gaining muscle and fat and cutting back -- yrs ago). maybe alphamine had it back in the day. intermittent fasting and alt day fasting is so effective that you don't need to bulk or cut even without bb genes/ and you get so skinny, you need to gain 20lb more.

Case Study: Two Fatal Case Reports of Acute Yohimbine ...
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Jul 11, 2013 - Yohimbine is an alkaloid that has been encountered on the streets as an ... to be acute yohimbine intoxication with the mode being an accident.Yohimbine - ScienceDirect.com
https://www.sciencedirect.com › topics › medicine-and-dentistry › yohimbine
Yohimbine is an α2-adrenergic receptor antagonist and increases the firing rate of the ..... The most serious side effect is cardiovascular collapse, particularly in ...
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Man boobs, panic and diarrhea: The embarrassing side ... https://www.independent.co.uk › LIFE › PULSE
Sep 20, 2016 - Derived from the bark of a West African tree, yohimbine is marketed as a treatment for erectile dysfunction (ED), to boost for sexual function and .


What is the best supplement to take after meth abuse to speed up ...
https://www.quora.com › What-is-the-best-supplement-to-take-after-meth-ab...
Yohimbe 2000 is over there in the corner. It's a natural stimulant, what I call “Poor Man's Meth.” One of the better features of this herbal product is that it actually ...
 
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What happens to cortisol receptors when you take hydrocortisone? I’ve long suspected a cortisol issue and read that someone was cured by taking hydrocortisone for 6 months then coming off. I am weaning off after 5 months and will let people know if I get bt

5 alpha I had the same reaction to licorice root but made improvements while on hydrocortisone...not sure why that is but maybe something to look into.
Cappella,

It’s interesting that for last five months you have seen improvements while on hydrocortisone despite the bad reaction to licorice. Maybe it’s possible for us to react good to increase in cortisol but react badly to lowering cortisol’s ability to break down into its inactive form. When cortisol does not break down too much of it can bind to the mineralocorticoid receptor which may have something to do with it. This could explain the initial good reaction to licorice that I had followed by it making me worse.